More Trouble for the Conservative "Family Values" Folks
Republican Sen. David Vitter came clean today about using Prostitutes supplied by the D.C. Madam. She warned that there were several high profile names in her database.
I wonder how many more will be outed in the weeks and months to come.
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Love those Christian Moral Folk...don't you?
LOL
I have doubted the veracity of their "moral values" ever since Jimmy Swaggart fell from his pedestal.
I just get tired of the so called conservative family values champions preaching to the rest of us...when they are not living up to their own "standards".
Wasn't there another evangelical caught about a year ago.... outed for using cocaine and male prostitutes??? (Yuck!). His name escapes me right now.
But it seems like we hear about at least one prominent Right wing Conservative falling from grace every year or two.
I am really curious now about the rest of that list....
I hope she lets the info out in a trickle, so that we can have a constant stream of Foley's all the way up until election day, lol.
I'm terrible...I know it! ;)
Grab a bowl of popcorn. She's not playing ...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=liZ8F9VC0h0
You all should be worried more about the people who DON'T ATTEST TO any particular "family values" and thus few of the people living under this ethos FAIL to live up to them but have to deal with the related problems that result.
This so called conservative, having FAILED to live up to the standards imposed upon him is likely to suffer the wrath of those who seek to enforce their standard thus you should not look at the failure of the INDIVIDUAL but the willingness of the SYSTEM to enforce their beliefs.
Again, compare this against the people who would see such a strategy as JUDGMENTAL. When one of their leaders get caught as such, or has a baby with his mistress you will find the masses who live the life of non-judgmentalism actually DEFENDING his actions, claiming that his importance to the movement if much greater than his indiscretion. Years later he can return to his former standing, without missing a beat.
Funny how a "conservative" that most of you had never even heard of before this incident can make you THINK that progress has been made on behalf of YOUR PEOPLE. Maybe you are working on behalf of "your ideology/party" instead?
Hey, My Brother,
Independent unbound, here.
You know, as much as I despise hypocrisy, I have a problem posting a much of this stuff. Why, I wonder?
Maybe we must post it because it is hypocrisy, the greatest deception.
I guess it doesn't matter because Mr. Vitter has received forgiveness from God and wife.
I will be more than willing to forgive him, under these circumstances.
But, Mr. Vitter, leave out capitol, now. Forgiveness does not mean that one can stay in our capitol as an official in our government.
Resign now.
Thanks Pelican1,
Yeah... I originally did not want to post anything about this because the article stated that he had already dealt with this with God and his family.
But then I thought about it...
His claim of being forgiven...would be fine and would probably be enough to let it go if he were a private citizen. But he is not a private citizen. He is a U.S. Senator. We have to be able to examine what these public officials are doing with a little more scrutiny. This is especially the case for a political party that likes to preach "Family Values".
They preach Family Values to the rest of us...talking about how important they are, yet they are not living by the same standard. At the same time, they are always scheming to cut food stamps, cut medicaid, cut student aid, cut head start and school breakfasts, and other things that really matter to families. These are the real family values... families need to be able to house, cloth, feed, and educate themselves.... especially children. Yet Republicans don't seem to see these things as "family values" issues. They act as if food and shelter for your children (and being able to provide it) is somehow not a family value. Being able to have access to healthcare and good childcare are not family values to these folks.
When they were in control of congress they blocked the minimum wage and tried to do away with all of the things that families need....particularly poor and moderate income families in this country.
So...after thinking about all of that, I decided that Mr. Vitter should not get a pass.
They preach Family Values to the rest of us...talking about how important they are, yet they are not living by the same standard. At the same time, they are always scheming to cut food stamps, cut medicaid, cut student aid, cut head start and school breakfasts, and other things that really matter to families. These are the real family values... families need to be able to house, cloth, feed, and educate themselves.... especially children. Yet Republicans don't seem to see these things as "family values" issues. They act as if food and shelter for your children (and being able to provide it) is somehow not a family value. Being able to have access to healthcare and good childcare are not family values to these folks.
This is the reason why he deserves to be cut no slack.
Don't wave your finger at others when you're dipping your hand in the cookie jar too.
Because he's a public figure, that's why this is news, same as the Mayor of Los Angeles.
FYI: Vittner is one of Guiliani's leading guys in the South. Oh, the twisted irony of that..LOL
[quote]When they were in control of congress they blocked the minimum wage and tried to do away with all of the things that families need....particularly poor and moderate income families in this country.[/quote]
Amazing.
In your view some who "blocked" the increase in Minimum Wage that the head of a household receives has done more harm to that FAMILY than a person who has chosen to bring one or multiple children into this world but who's job skills only allow them to pull down MINIMUM WAGE?????
[quotes]tried to do away with all of the things that families need....[/quote]
We are all into ACCURACY and not propaganda here, right?
Please articulate what the evil, Republican lead Congress that has recently been deposed did to take away from "poor and middle class families"?
Notice the TREND? It is not decreasing in the social spending that these "Poor and Middle Class families" depend upon. (ie: Health & Human Services is larger than Defense)
http://www.federalbudget.com/
Constructive Feedback,
The so-called "lower-class" and uneducated are not the only ones who have been struggling with makings ends meet, as you suggest.
Have you been living in a bubble over the past few years?
Working class and middle class folks are also catching hell.
Here are several past postings that you should check out and pay attention to....
Check out the NPR Hunger Series from the following link.
The need for Living Wages
Next....
The impact of the corporate based economy
And....
Is The American Dream Still Possible For Most People?
You complain about the poor having children as if this is China and we have some kind of 1 child rule. They have a right to have families just like your wealthy buddies do. I bet if it were really up to you and the other neo-cons you all would form Concentration camps and sterilize poor Black and brown folks wouldn't you????
You are saying that the poor are having too many babies.... yet your Republican Party (for so many years) didn't want to fund sex education and family planning, which could cut down on the number of unwanted pregnancies. Bush STILL hints at vetoing any kind of meaningful, robust sex education in schools. The die hard neo-cons still prefer "abstinence only" (which does not work). There shall be no support for Condoms and pregnancy prevention... just abstinence.
You can't have it both ways.
Angry Independent:
You say that people have a RIGHT to a family?
Please detail this for me?
It is interesting that society holds my wife and I - 2 Black adults, both college graduates and both gainfully employed ACCOUNTABLE if we were to have an additional child. We would be expected to pay the extra insurance, health care, education, child care and food expenses.
As RESPONSIBLE adults we DELIBERATE over increasing the size of our current family and have concluded that it is not in our interests and out of the willingness to maintain our current lifestyle with regard to time to have another child.
Think about how this translates into the larger community and into the child when someone with LESS resources to draw upon is not DELIBERATIVE in the same way.
Certain the child's EDUCATIONAL preparation has a direct correlation to the parent's abilities. I am teaching my 5 year old, very active son how to read priort to kindergarten. It is clear to me that absent this basis at home a child is going to be behind.
What about the financial resources to provide adequate childcare, health care and food?
You can show any LIVING WAGE study that you want. At the end of the day in this CONSUMER market the EMPLOYER is the CONSUMER OF LABOR. I don't see YOU going into a restaurant and ordering a prime rib steak but being satisfied with a hamburger. If the restauranteur told you that he is ABSTRACTING the VALUE of the meat from the COST of the meat for the sake of using the margin to pay his employees YOU WOULD NO DOUBT WALK OUT rather than paying $30 for a burger.
Angry - I AM MAKING A "LIVING WAGE" right now!! I have spent all year getting certified on an important industry standard. I gave up my television time, hanging out time and admittedly some family time to achieve this, increasing my VALUE and, later on, increasing my demand for salary because of my increased competence for a CONSUMER OF EMPLOYMENT.
PS - you say "for the past few years" the poor have been struggling. Could you detail the YEAR in which they were not STRUGGLING and the POLICY that made them start to STRUGGLE? (Conversely - when they weren't struggling - do you have the ECONOMIC DATA to prove this rather than it being a factor of their SENTIMENTS upon the president?)
Graph of Historical US Poverty Rates:
http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0831/csmimg/p2a.gif
Here is another
http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2005/37-Million-US-Poverty1oct05b.gif
When were people "Not Struggling"?
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