Thursday, September 17, 2009

Mr. President, are you REALLY going to defend the Baucus SCAM?

Just asking.

There are 5 different healthcare bills from Congressional Committees.


Max Baucus wasted MONTHS of time, to come up with this piece of bullshyt.

I haven't hidden my skepticism of some folks, who have SOLD OUT THE PUBLIC OPTION, wanting to hide behind the bi-partisan bullshyt cloak.

Well, Baucus' sellout ass standing there ALONE, presenting this piece of garbage, was indeed telling.

IF YOU WANT TO SELLOUT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, you'll have to do it front and center, with no cloak to hide behind.

WHY ask Jay Rockefeller and Wyden to the White House...could it be that the rumblings are true and that the Baucus abomination is in danger of NOT EVEN GETTING OUT OF COMMITTEE......and, where would we be, if the ONLY bills coming of out of committee are...

THE FOUR WITH THE PUBLIC OPTION in them. Where's the cover for the PUBLIC OPTION SELLOUT, if EVERY bill out there - aside from the Baucus SCAM - has a PUBLIC OPTION IN IT?

Why is Jay Rockefeller going on record saying that he fears that this White House is ready to put their names behind any piece of shyt, just as long as they call spray some perfume on it and call it 'healthcare reform'.

I told you, I don't give a rat's ass about the President having a nice shiny ceremony if the bill IS NOT ACTUAL REFORM, but some SCAM being shilled as such.

And, that's all that the Baucus bill is - A PAYOFF TO THE HEALTH INSURANCE INDUSTRY.

After all, we've already had the SELLOUT TO PHARMA.

The American people are hip to what the Baucus Bill is, and told you so today:

And what about the FRAUD of CO-OPS, that Baucus is trying to shill in his swill?

From Americablog:
Amid the coverage of the boost the CBO's scoring (.pdf) gave to Max Baucus's bill yesterday, an element of the CBO report appears to have gone mostly unnoticed, a wonky friend points out: The report paints co-ops — the leading alternative to a true public option — as basically irrelevant to the plan's cost.

The co-ops are dealt with, in fact, in a passing parenthetical remark:

(The proposed co-ops had very little effect on the estimates of total enrollment in the exchanges or federal costs because, as they are described in the specifications, they seem unlikely to establish a significant market presence in many areas of the country or to noticeably affect federal subsidy payments.)

The CBO confirms what liberal co-op critics have charged: That they will neither cover many people nor put downward pressure on costs, the two supposed benefits of the public option.

This is the alternative to the public option, we keep being told. Now the experts are telling us that co-ops won't achieve what they're supposed to. So they're not an acceptable alternative to the president's campaign promises at all. They're apparently a lot of nothing.

Can't even get the CBO to sign on to his LIE.

I told you all that I would continue to be skeptical, and that hasn't changed one iota.


Brian said...

I was left speechless when Baucus came out with this nonsense.

It went beyond even my worst expectations. It's a complete giveaway to the insurance companies, just like I predicted it would be.

You mean to tell me that you are going to force me to give my money to the same private insurance industry that has been screwing Americans for years....and if I don't cooperate, you are going to fine me a ton of money? Meanwhile there would be no public option for me to turn to?????

There are just so many things wrong with that scenario.
The whole thing is just obscene.
I am glad that the Bau.... Bogus Plan was slammed when it came out.
This was written in part by the insurance industry.

What bothers me now though is that Obama was seen cheering for this madness. He shouldn't even think of signing anything like this. Significant changes would have to be made. This bill does not have all of the elements or even the key elements that Obama spelled out in his speech. It bears no resemblance whatsoever to what was described.

Why in the Hell are Democrats floating bills that are essentially Republican bills... when Republicans aren't on board anyway...and never were going to be? It's ridiculous.

Obama's problem now (and we could see it coming...) is that he will have trouble even getting 50 votes.... nevermind 60. The fact is... he never even had 50 who would agree to rules changes and so forth. And from an analysis that I saw a couple of weeks ago...they may still need 60 because the attempt to change Senate rules may not work.

Obama has a mess on his hands.... a mess that he is partly responsible for creating.

rikyrah said...

you and I continue to come from different angles. you give him the benefit of the doubt, and I don't. not after the sellout to PHARMA.

Brian said...

I see...

So you don't trust him?

Id didn't think you could be so skeptical, lol. I'm proud of you.

I have some distrust as well...partly because of some of the deals he cuts behind our the drug company deal that you mentioned. But I gave him somewhat of a benefit of the doubt.

The folks who I really don't trust...are those in Congress who are writing (along with the insurance companies) and negotiating these healthcare bills. I don't trust any of them. Selling us out is what they do for a living.... so I am skeptical of everything that comes out of their mouths.... That's why i'm always backtracking to try to find out who's lying to me on any particular day, week...or particular issue.

And thank God for Keith Olbermann...

i'm surprised that you of all people lost trust.... seemed to me that you had signed up for a daily dose of the koolaid they were selling. LOL. I guess you realized that you should check to see what was in that koolaid after you noticed the funny after taste. LOL

But it was you afterall (if I recall correctly) who said that pushing healthcare now was a good idea.... He only did what you were hoping that he would do in trying it so soon.

I always thought it would be crazy to try this in the first year....(and that was before the economic crisis hit), exactly for many of the reasons that we have already seen over the last 3 months. The economic situation was even more of a reason not to try it.