Monday, May 31, 2010

Can We Discuss the 51st State and its UNACCOUNTABILITY?

I first saw this story on BooMan Tribune.
Israel Massacres Pro-Palestinian Activists

by BooMan
Mon May 31st, 2010 at 09:43:45 AM EST

Here's how Haaretz tells it:

The left-wing activists on board a flotilla carrying aid to the Gaza Strip tried to lynch the Israel Navy commandos who stormed their Turkish-flagged ship early Monday, Israel Defense Forces sources told Haaretz.

The commandos, who intercepted the Turkish ferry Mavi Marmara after it ignored orders to turn back, said they encountered violent resistance from activists armed with sticks and knives. According to the soldiers, the activists threw one of their comrades from the upper deck to the lower after they boarded.

Activists attacked a commando with iron bars as he descended onto the ship from a helicopter, the army said. The IDF said its rules of engagement allowed troops to open fire in what it called a "life-threatening situation".

The soldiers said they were forced to open fire after the activists struck one of their comrades in the head and trampled on him. A senior field commander ordered the soldiers then to respond with fire, a decision which the commandos said received full backing the military echelon.

At least 10 people were killed and several more wounded after the Israel Navy troops opened fire on the six-ship flotilla. Unofficial reports put the death toll at between 14 and 20.

DO YOU BELIEVE THIS STORY?

I mean, do you honestly believe this is how it went down?

I'll admit that I don't believe it for one second. The Israelis EXECUTED these people.

PERIOD.

This boat was in INTERNATIONAL WATERS, and they executed these people.



The response from Turkey?

Turkey threatens action; Israel on alert

New Delhi: Turkey has threatened Israel with unprecedented action after Israeli forces attacked an aid vessel, killing 10 peace activists headed to Gaza.

Israel said 10 people died while those on the ship said at least 15 were killed

A shocked world has responded with outrage. Turkey recalled its ambassador to Israel and warned of unprecedented and incalculable reprisals.

Two Turkish activists were reported to be among those killed in the flotilla. Ankara warned that further supply vessels will be sent to Gaza, escorted by the Turkish Navy, a development with unpredictable consequences.

Israel has sounded an alert throughout the country fearing rocket attacks by Hezbollah in Lebanon.

The Arab League has called an urgent meeting on Tuesday to decide on a common response. Egypt is under pressure to end the blockade of Gaza while Greece has cancelled a military exercise with Isreal.

The world is waiting for the response from Washington, how will President Obama react to the provocation from America's closest ally.



Turkey was Israel's closest supposed Arab ally, and this is how they treat them.

We have the ARAB LEAGUE meeting, which is never a good sign.

So, where is Bibi Netanyahu?

Hauling ass back to Israel, ' skipping' a planned meeting with the White House.


And the response from the United States Government?



the White House later released an account of the conversation(between the President and Netanyahu), saying Mr. Obama had expressed “deep regret” at the loss of life and recognized “the importance of learning all the facts and circumstances” as soon as possible.



FUCK THIS.

It is time.

It is PAST TIME for the United States to HONESTLY evaluate what our sponsorship of Israel is costing us.

Not only in terms of dollars, but also in terms of good will around the world.

WE are the ones giving Israel the basically-interest free monies, not the other way around.

PERIOD.

And, it's time for this country to do an evaluation of what return we are getting for that money.

It's time to have a real debate on WHY we should continue to sponsor the 51st State.

And ALLLLL them mofos in Congress who want to shout down anyone asking this simple question should be forced, to say, to the American people, WHERE THEIR ALLEGIANCE IS.

WHICH country are they representing:

THE UNITED STATES

or

ISRAEL?

The Oath that a member of Congress takes is the following:



I, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.




They took an oath to defend the Constitution of the United States - it's time that they be reminded of it, before they open their damn mouths.

It's also good and well past time for the American people to fully understand what AIPAC does, and why it's so influential. AIPAC's influence flourishes in the dark. Most people have absolutely no clue about its influence, and why that influence is detrimental to the United States. Time to turn on the light and show AIPAC for what it is. And, how the safety and security of the United States isn't their goal.


Turkey isn't backing down. They are also using their own diplomatic cards.

NATO to Hold Meeting on Israeli Attack



NATO has agreed to a request by the Turkish premier to hold an emergency meeting over the fatal Israeli raid on the Gaza-bound Freedom Flotilla.

"Planning is underway for a meeting at the request of the Turkish authorities tomorrow afternoon," James Appathurai, a spokesman for the alliance, said in a Monday statement.

NATO is deeply concerned about the loss of life in international waters, he added, AFP reported.


Since Turkey IS a member of NATO, how will the United States handle that? What about the rest of the member states, and do we see this as an attack on the country of Turkey?


Why, does it seem, everytime Israel is involved, things have a way of just spinning out of control in a flash?

3 comments:

Roderick said...

Yes the Israelis got punked.

BTW Artur Davis lost big to Sparks in Alabama's Democratic primary.

I guess running against black folks didn't work out too well for Davis.
LOL

rikyrah said...

cue my tiny violin for Davis

Brian said...

Calling Israel the 51st State suggests that it is somehow subordinate to the White House....or even equal. But the facts on the ground over the past 20 years or so paint an even worse picture. I wouldn't call them the 51's State at all... instead, the relationship is really more of a tail wagging the dog situation as opposed to the dog (the U.S.) wagging the tail
(Israel). We are more of a province or outpost of Israel...and the real center of power, particularly when it comes to U.S. policy in the mideast, is actually in Jerusalem, not Washington. The U.S. doesn't even operate on the same footing as Israel...the two don't even behave as if they are equal States. U.S. leaders act as if we are subordinate to Israel... It is truly unbelievable...and completely illogical. It's a relationship that is poisonous for the U.S., and works against the best interests of the U.S. and its citizens.

No other two Countries (that I can think of) have this kind of strange "tail wagging the dog" relationship.

The U.S. is in this relationship primarily because of domestic politics. The Jewish elite is so unbelievably powerful in the U.S. No major U.S. political figure (President, VP, Sec. of State) has ever been willing or able to stand up to Israel or to even tell it "No" on any major policy issue. None have had the guts to even criticize Israel. Why not? Because any American politician... from the President on down, who challenges Israel, would be headed for the end of their political careers.

Basically the U.S. is a hostage to Israel and its policies. Israel answers to no one and can pretty much do whatever it wants.

And I warned about Netanyahu. He is one of the most dangerous leaders in the World, like I stated he would be. This is nothing compared to what he has in store for us regarding Iran. Israel is going to drag the U.S. into more conflicts, (when we don't need them) just like it helped to push us into Iraq prior to March, 2003. U.S. policy in the Middle East is completely built around Israel (not based on the best interests of Americans).

So no... I was not shocked at all by this incident. More business as usual for Israel.

However, I don't want to suggest that the protesters could not have handled the situation better. They were supposed to have engaged in passive resistance/civil disobedience... any idiot who used weapons, didn't help the cause of the Palestinians or of the organizations trying to change Israel's Gaza policy.

Israel also reportedly offered the boats an alternate port where items could have been offloaded (although the Israeli government and the IDF aren't known for their honesty and integrity). I'm not sure I would have trusted Israel on that promise either. But there could have been some way to track the items to make sure they were actually delivered/donated.