Saturday, April 05, 2008

Hillary "Tonya Harding" Clinton 'Misspeaks' Twice in 24 Hours

Misspeak #1- Healthcare related.


Oops. Another Clinton Story Turns Out To Be Not So True
Posted by Karen Tumulty
April 5, 2008 7:34

I've heard Hillary Clinton tell the story many times in speeches, and it rarely fails to bring a horrified gasp from the crowd: An uninsured and pregnant Ohio woman, working for minimum wage at a pizza parlor, is turned away from a hospital because she can't come up with $100. The baby dies, and so does the woman. Clinton talks about how this woman haunts her, and how stories like this show the moral imperative--and the urgency--of fixing a badly broken health care system. (You can see a video here.)

Except, it turns out, it didn't happen--at least, apparently, not the way Clinton said it did. There was indeed a tragedy last August in Athens, Ohio, in which a woman, Trina Bachtel, gave birth to a stillborn baby and subsequently died herself. But the New York Times reports this morning that the hospital involved says Bachtel had coverage,and received treatment.

The story was NEVER verified by the ' Ready on Day One' campaign. How professional of them.

Misspeak #2 - Iraq War Related


In an interview today, Hillary " Tonya Harding" Clinton says:

Obama has been credited with foreseeing a troublesome war in Iraq primarily due to a speech he gave in 2002 while he was a state senator, where he spoke out against the war. Clinton said, "I started criticizing the war in Iraq before he did. So, I’m well aware that his entire campaign is premised on a speech he gave in 2002 and I give him credit for making that speech. But that was not a decision."

Um, ok....

This is Barack Obama - October 2, 2002:

Good afternoon. Let me begin by saying that although this has been billed as an anti-war rally, I stand before you as someone who is not opposed to war in all circumstances.

The Civil War was one of the bloodiest in history, and yet it was only through the crucible of the sword, the sacrifice of multitudes, that we could begin to perfect this union, and drive the scourge of slavery from our soil. I don’t oppose all wars.

My grandfather signed up for a war the day after Pearl Harbor was bombed, fought in Patton’s army. He saw the dead and dying across the fields of Europe; he heard the stories of fellow troops who first entered Auschwitz and Treblinka. He fought in the name of a larger freedom, part of that arsenal of democracy that triumphed over evil, and he did not fight in vain.

I don’t oppose all wars.

After September 11th, after witnessing the carnage and destruction, the dust and the tears, I supported this Administration’s pledge to hunt down and root out those who would slaughter innocents in the name of intolerance, and I would willingly take up arms myself to prevent such a tragedy from happening again.

I don’t oppose all wars. And I know that in this crowd today, there is no shortage of patriots, or of patriotism. What I am opposed to is a dumb war. What I am opposed to is a rash war. What I am opposed to is the cynical attempt by Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz and other arm-chair, weekend warriors in this Administration to shove their own ideological agendas down our throats, irrespective of the costs in lives lost and in hardships borne.

What I am opposed to is the attempt by political hacks like Karl Rove to distract us from a rise in the uninsured, a rise in the poverty rate, a drop in the median income – to distract us from corporate scandals and a stock market that has just gone through the worst month since the Great Depression.

That’s what I’m opposed to. A dumb war. A rash war. A war based not on reason but on passion, not on principle but on politics.

Now let me be clear – I suffer no illusions about Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal man. A ruthless man. A man who butchers his own people to secure his own power. He has repeatedly defied UN resolutions, thwarted UN inspection teams, developed chemical and biological weapons, and coveted nuclear capacity.

He’s a bad guy. The world, and the Iraqi people, would be better off without him.

But I also know that Saddam poses no imminent and direct threat to the United States, or to his neighbors, that the Iraqi economy is in shambles, that the Iraqi military a fraction of its former strength, and that in concert with the international community he can be contained until, in the way of all petty dictators, he falls away into the dustbin of history.

I know that even a successful war against Iraq will require a US occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences. I know that an invasion of Iraq without a clear rationale and without strong international support will only fan the flames of the Middle East, and encourage the worst, rather than best, impulses of the Arab world, and strengthen the recruitment arm of al-Qaeda.

I am not opposed to all wars. I’m opposed to dumb wars.

So for those of us who seek a more just and secure world for our children, let us send a clear message to the president today. You want a fight, President Bush? Let’s finish the fight with Bin Laden and al-Qaeda, through effective, coordinated intelligence, and a shutting down of the financial networks that support terrorism, and a homeland security program that involves more than color-coded warnings.

You want a fight, President Bush? Let’s fight to make sure that the UN inspectors can do their work, and that we vigorously enforce a non-proliferation treaty, and that former enemies and current allies like Russia safeguard and ultimately eliminate their stores of nuclear material, and that nations like Pakistan and India never use the terrible weapons already in their possession, and that the arms merchants in our own country stop feeding the countless wars that rage across the globe.

You want a fight, President Bush? Let’s fight to make sure our so-called allies in the Middle East, the Saudis and the Egyptians, stop oppressing their own people, and suppressing dissent, and tolerating corruption and inequality, and mismanaging their economies so that their youth grow up without education, without prospects, without hope, the ready recruits of terrorist cells.

You want a fight, President Bush? Let’s fight to wean ourselves off Middle East oil, through an energy policy that doesn’t simply serve the interests of Exxon and Mobil.

Those are the battles that we need to fight. Those are the battles that we willingly join. The battles against ignorance and intolerance. Corruption and greed. Poverty and despair.

The consequences of war are dire, the sacrifices immeasurable. We may have occasion in our lifetime to once again rise up in defense of our freedom, and pay the wages of war. But we ought not – we will not – travel down that hellish path blindly. Nor should we allow those who would march off and pay the ultimate sacrifice, who would prove the full measure of devotion with their blood, to make such an awful sacrifice in vain.

This was given EIGHT DAYS before Hillary " Tonya Harding" Clinton voted to authorize this war.

Did she read the NIE Report before casting her vote? NO.

Did I miss where she APOLOGIZED for her vote?

Thanks to LeftyCoaster at DailyKos for finding this:

Here's how Hillary explained her vote for the War 14 months later after the war was already going very wrong.

Remarks by Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton
December 15, 2003
Council on Foreign Relations

I was one who supported giving President Bush the authority, if necessary, to use force against Saddam Hussein. I believe that that was the right vote. I have had many disputes and disagreements with the administration over how that authority has been used, but I stand by the vote to provide the authority because I think it was a necessary step in order to maximize the outcome that did occur in the Security Council with the unanimous vote to send in inspectors. And I also knew that our military forces would be successful. But what we did not appreciate fully and what the administration was unprepared for was what would happen the day after.

Hillary was worried about maintaining support for the War in Iraq:

I worry a lot about how difficult it will be in the political arena to stay the course...


Angie said...

Wow, Rikyrah! I'm so glad that you provided us with the transcript from Senator Obama's comments about the war. I've always heard that he opposed the war, but I never knew to what extent. Reading his expressions and opinions about the war was great. Thanks.

I'm going to share it with others.


The Angry Independent said...

I'm sure the media will ride this story as hard as they did with the case of Obama's NAFTA situation & the Canadians (which the media misrepresented and overblew)....or with the case of Rev. Wright. I'll be sure to hold my breath.


Hillary will get a pass on this. This story will be buried on page 6 of the major newspapers....and will only be mentioned in passing on the major networks... (if it's mentioned at all). It will be spun as another episode of Hillary "mispeaking". She has such a cozy relationship with the media that she doesn't seem worried about these stories. In fact, she is so confident that these stories are no big deal that she joked about her Bosnia lie on Leno a few days ago.


wroughtn harv said...

Thanks for publishing the speech.

It answered a couple of questions I had in my own mind about Obama.

I had wondered if the words were his or if he had some magic wordsmith working away in some corner.

Unless that wordsmith is Michelle, well, that would be okay, she's his wife, pillow talk would be awesome I'll bet, it appears the words are Obamas.

That gives me hope. Great words come from great minds. I believe Obama has a much greater mind than I suspected possible from someone so good at expressing ideas.

My wife has been supporting Hilary. I felt she was wrong but I bit my tongue. I accepted that as a sixty plus woman in America today Hilary had to be more to her than she was to me.

Hilary's lies have changed my wife's perspective on her. Our biggest disappointment in Bill was the bald faced lying.

Andre said...

Hi Rikyrah,

Ever since Hill had a pity party accusing the media of bias, they have been far more passive with her antics.

AI, it's funny you said: "It will be spun as another episode of Hillary 'mispeaking'", because I was watching CNN a little bit ago and that's exactly what the news tag said.

Man! If my lies would be forgiven HALF as often as Hill's, I could do some major damage.

Anonymous said...

I've been doing some research on the Tonya Harding / Hillary Clinton comparisons and found this blog. Her tactics are so devious, always interrupting during the debates and smearing Obama with non-issues.

Anyway, this youtube video really made me laugh, it's a great comparion.